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What is Cremant de Bourgogne?

Posted by JoAnnChew, Apr 8, 2015.

Don’t call it Champagne. You’ll get us in trouble.

But it’s sometimes difficult to hold your tongue. Mainly because Cremant de Bourgogne is made in the very same way as those much more expensive wines produced by our neighbors to the north. A well-made Cremant is a joy. A wine you can pull out for any occasion at a fraction of the price of the millions upon millions of bottles that have the right to be called Champagne.

And that’s reason enough to celebrate!

Cremant has been made in Burgundy for nearly two centuries now. It has several areas of production, and so (because of Burgundy’s varied and complex soil make up) there are several distinct styles of Cremant. Sparkling wines appeared in Rully, Nuits-St Georges and the areas around Chablis at about the same time early in the 19th century, and these are still the areas where most of the wines come from. Interestingly (but maybe not surprisingly) there is a vibrant production of AOC Cremant de Bourgogne just south of the border with ‘official’ Champagne in the area north of Chatillon sur Seine.


Reply by duncan 906, Apr 8, 2015.

I have had this and it is very good

Reply by HolyCityCatering, Apr 13, 2015.

Cremant de Bourgogne is the appellation for the white and rose sparkling wines of Burgundy, made predominantly from Pinot Noir and Chardonnay grapes in the methode traditionelle. 

Reply by dvogler, Apr 13, 2015.

There's something fishy about these posts.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 13, 2015.

Funny how they just suddenly "bubbled up" to the surface.

But all in the name of knowledge.  Because I had NO IDEA that it was available, less expensive than "real" champagne, and had its own PR team. 

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming, unless someone can come up with some winning thread-jacking here. 

Reply by dvogler, Apr 14, 2015.

Joanne, your first post was this:

I am new member in this forum and share my information.

I simply find it hard to believe that the above post about Cremant de Bourgogne is your information.

Then, out of the blue another new poster has a remarkable addition.  I'd appreciate some transparency.



Reply by dmcker, Apr 14, 2015.

So Fox, you really didn't know about cremant de Bourgogne? How about cremant d'Alsace or vin mousseux from wherever?  Lots of sparkling bubbling up all over France. Champagne is only a drop in the bucket compared to overall production around the country. But they've been superb at branding, more branding and grabbing then directing eyeballs and controlling mind space. Marketing 101 (followed by upper division and post graduate courses in the champers case), which our OP and subsequent friend seem to be just starting to study.

Much of the cremant and mousseux I've had is at least as good as almost all Cava and Prosecco. IMO France has the battle of the bubbles won pretty handily, though I'm sure this call to arms will produce champions for Italy and Spain. Will be happy to have our Luchador up north referee a takedown match between what I pull in from France and what GDP might dredge up from Italy...  ;-)

Reply by outthere, Apr 14, 2015.
What is Charles Shaw Ceres Cabernet Sauvignon? Don't call it Napa Cab you'll get us in trouble!
But it's sometimes difficult to hold your tongue. Mainly because Charles Shaw Ceres Cabernet Sauvignon is made in the same way as those much more expensive wines produced by our neighbors in the north. A well made Charles Shaw is an oxymoron you can pull out at large parties for the non-discriminating wine drinker at a fraction of the price of the million upon millions of bottles that have earned the right to be called Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon.
That's reason enough to hold a drunken bash.
Two Buck Chuck has been made in Ceres California by Bronco Wines for, uh, I don't really know but seriously who really cares? It won a triple gold medal at the Orange County Fair and we all know what wonderful palates those folks have in the OC. I'm 94 points on that! Interesting enough some of our grapes may come from areas just to the south of the official border where real Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon is grown (Vallejo, Livermore, Manteca, Modesto, Tracy, Turlock, ). What's really in a name?
Also see: Penis Envy
Reply by dvogler, Apr 14, 2015.

Nice one OT  :)

Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 14, 2015.

Missed your calling, OT. 

DM, I couldn't find the emoji combining tongue-in-cheek and throwing up.  If some region makes sparking wine, I've probably tried some. 

Reply by dmcker, Apr 15, 2015.

What I want to know is why OT seems to be discriminating against Lancaster?

And Fox, why not be more direct? Me, I'm trying to be kind and gentle! 




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