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Snooth User: Really Big Al

Ever-Changing Value Wines - Now Considering Under $30 USD Washington State wine...

Original post by Really Big Al, May 16, 2017.

Sometimes we get used to paying upwards of $100 for a nice bottle of wine from the wine shop.  Those are the 'good days' that we want to remember, but soon you notice your bank account is dropping faster than Trumps approval rating, so you start looking for more value-oriented wines that are tasty in their own right.

This topic is all about value wines, and we'll look at several varietals after the initial 'just post some value wines' push.  Below is our current focus:

When you find a nice Washington state that is below $30 retail, please post a picture here and give us an idea of why it's worthy of you wanting to buy another bottle or two.  Washington state has become known for their red blends; Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot too.  Have you found a bottle worthy of mention?

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Reply by Really Big Al, Jun 18, 2017.

Yes, how is the wine in the Ukraine?  I bet the good stuff is shipped to Moscow. 

According to Wikipedia, the main varietals are AligotéMuscatIsabellaTraminerCabernet SauvignonChardonnayPinot noirPinot grisRkatsiteli.

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Reply by rckr1951, Jun 18, 2017.

RBA - Thanks for taking the next step and sharing.

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Reply by Coleney, Jun 19, 2017.

Last month I went to Ukraine on a holiday to see my friend. He showed me this wonderful Ukrainian winery and we bought plenty of different wine. You can check out their website for details (if it’s interesting for you of course):  http://kolonist.com.ua/en/

I would definitely advice it to any of my friends (but as usual it’s a question of taste).

As everywhere, in Ukraine you can find both good and bad wine. Also, wine is very cheap in Ukraine, as the alcohol taxes are extremely low. So majority of local wine cost nearly 3 – 15$.

There were a lot of wineries in Crimea, as climate is perfect there for wine. However, now Crimea belongs to Russia and wine production significantly declined.

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 20, 2017.

War, backwards economies, intrusive secret police with affiliated gangsters, and corrupt regimes tend to put a damper on good wine production.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Jun 20, 2017.

Getting back to the tasty under-$20 wines for a minute, I opened this one last night and it was pretty nice to my taste buds.  Sandra didn't like it very much, but I'm having another glass tonight and I still like it.  I might buy another one or two soon.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Jun 20, 2017.

Also in the post I did earlier on Top 150 Aussie NZ wines there is a under AUD20 category

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Reply by MJET, Jun 21, 2017.

Can't believe I had not had this before! Easy drinking, tasty, medium-full body, with a somewhat long finish. At $12 this is excellent. 

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Reply by EMark, Jun 21, 2017.

I tried the Marrietta Old Vine Red wine Lot No. 62 received  lot of praise. I know where I can get it.  So, I'll pick up 64.

Here is another Costco wine:

 

Nothing offensive about it and easy to drink.  Easily worth the $12 that I paid for it but, definitely, not worth more than $20.  Cherry mixed with stone fruit on entry, light on tannin, OK on acid.  Just not at all a complex wine.  A great wine for a wedding party--low cost with sufficient alcohol content.

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Reply by rckr1951, Jun 21, 2017.

RBA - That winery isn't bad at all.  They one of several from Portugal I buy regularly.

MJET - The Lot 64 has been in cellar for years.  Great for BBQ's.

Here's a trio of under $20 wines that I've been enjoying lately:

Gotta pay attention to vintages with this one, but for around $10 this is a good Carmenere normally, but this was a complete surprise.  Large blackberry fruit and chocolate, coffee, round chewy tannins and good acidity.

This is the best wine from the Badger state IMHO.  This has a touch less fruit and has a more Semillion touch than other years, which isn't really a bad thing.  Had this over the last weekend with a fruit salad and it paired well.

I don't know that this actually sells for less than $20 normally (I checked later and it's doesn't.) but I paid $14.00 for it and was worth every penny of that - and with the prices of Cali pinot it's worth it at at $24 it normally sells for.  Oh well...dreams are free at least.

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Reply by rckr1951, Jun 22, 2017.

EMARK - Agree with your assessment on the above bottle, easy to pour and can put 3-4 bottles without damaging the pocketbook to badly.

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Reply by MJET, Jun 23, 2017.

RCKR-I can get that Carmenere for $6-7 in my area often. It don't get much better at that basement price point! 

Yesterday we had this 2014 Sean Mnior Cabernet. Nothing memorable.... Nose was muted, black fruit, not much complexity, medium body, medium finish. For less than $15, it's decent. 

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Reply by duncan 906, Jun 23, 2017.

Languedoc is a part of France renowned for good bottles of wine at reasonable prices. I have just finished a Domaine L'Aigueliere Montepeyroux Cote Rousse that I got on www.bidforwine.co.uk/auctions/show/111420 for a mere £4. It is mainly syrah and could easily be a northern Rhone such is the quality. Robert Parker,the well known American wine critic is a fan of this estate. I wrote up a review on here of course

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Reply by rckr1951, Jun 23, 2017.

Read your review - interesting report.

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Reply by rckr1951, Jun 23, 2017.

We tried a new blackened chicken recipe on the grill tonight on the grill, which was very good, and we poured this:

The 2014 Domaine Cabiran Maury Sec.  The paperwork says - " Entirely pretension-free" or "The exceedingly elegant " or "This open-knit red "  - bullshit - this was rustic and large.  Great fruit riding onmed - big tannic structure, there's plenty of dark cherry, plum, anise and spicey minerality working with great acidity.  This will sit well for 2-3 more years.

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Reply by rckr1951, Jun 28, 2017.

These 2 are good and I listed them in another thread, but what the hell:

and this:

In the past I'd by a couple of bottles a year and at around $9-$10 it was worth it, then it lost it'a allure due to poor showings; but was reading about and talking about it with friends and they said I should try again as this was much better, so.......;

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Reply by MJET, Jun 28, 2017.

RCKR-I've had a few Santa Ema's Merlot and Cabernet Sauvignon. Solid for under $10, but as you mentioned inconsistent at times. 

I'm on a Marietta Run! This Christo Lot #2 Blend was very tasty. The Syrah and PS really shine. Yes, fruit forward, but balanced with acidity and decent structure, medium finish. Solid QPR at under $20. 

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Reply by rckr1951, Jun 28, 2017.

Yes they are very good MJET.  Been enjoying them for several years.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Jul 5, 2017.

I stopped by my favorite wine shop today, which isn't my normal Cat Tuesday.  Someone else had signed up for my slot yesterday, so I signed up for today to catch up.  I got there and found that the lady that had taken my slot yesterday didn't even show up!  Poor Wyatt, Dax and Wesson went hungry until the evening feeding.  

Anyway, I picked up this 2009 Nucerro Reserva from Rioja for under $20 and although I haven't opened it yet, I sure hope it's decent.  They don't identify the varietal(s) on the label other than saying it's a red blend, but the review I linked identified it as Tempranillo (as expected).  That review also indicates this wine is extremely tasty and it punches way about it's weight class.  You guys should see if you can get a bottle!

Oh, here are more details on the Tempranillo blend.

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Reply by rckr1951, Jul 5, 2017.

RBA - This wine was pretty highly thought of at Vivino.com.  Sounds like a very good buy.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Jul 7, 2017.

Ok, I opened up that 2009 Nucerro.  I've had better Spanish wine for sure, but it's actually quite decent.  Give it about 30 minutes to open up and a bit of the tartness diminishes.  Initially I was tasting more cherry than I expected.  I would buy it again.

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