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Snooth User: esol

New World Pinot Noir recommendation?

Posted by esol, Aug 9, 2016.

I typically shy away from Pinot Noir, preferring more full bodied, dark & dense varieties.

But I have had a couple Pinot's that knocked my socks off. In each case, these were made New World style with very concentrated extraction resulting in a fruity palette and dense mouth feel. But I don't recall what wines/vintages were like this.

Would love to get some recommendations. 

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Reply by rckr1951, Aug 9, 2016.

The Hahn Slh 2013 & 2014 are good ones to start with.  Welcome to snooth!

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Reply by esol, Aug 9, 2016.

Thanks RCKR1951 - I ordered a couple bottles of the 2014.

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Reply by vin0vin0, Aug 9, 2016.

I find that typically the warmer the region the riper (and bigger/richer) the pinot. We were in Santa Barbara last December and then in Willamette Valley over the 4th and the general differences in their respective pinots are quite noticeable.  I'll 2nd the Hahn rec from RCKR. Adelaida has a Sta. Rita Hills pinot from the Doctors Vineyard and another really nice one from their HMR estate in Paso Robles.

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Reply by dmcker, Aug 10, 2016.

This sounds like a question for GregT--should be right up his alley!

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Reply by JonDerry, Aug 10, 2016.

2014 Donkey & Goat Pinot Noir Helluva Vineyard (Anderson Valley)

Great Pinot, if you don't mind good acidity along with the fresh fruit and some stem inclusion. Think it's the best CA Pinot under $40, and maybe higher.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Aug 10, 2016.

I prefer the Willamette Valley (Oregon) Pinot Noir as a general rule, but we've had some great ones from Anderson Valley (Goldeneye from Duckhorn).

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Reply by MJET, Aug 10, 2016.

Welcome Esol! I don't drink too much PN but when I do I go with: 

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Reply by MJET, Aug 10, 2016.

Another good one:

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Reply by esol, Aug 10, 2016.

OK Thanks for all your suggestions. I was able to find most of your suggestions, though a couple I had to get different vintages. I added to that a few that I selected based on various reviews. I have a decent selection of Pinot Noir on order now, at a range of price points, most of which should be a good fit to my style preference. I'm just getting one of each for now, but will stock up if any tickle the right spot. Here's what I ended up ordering:

2013 The Hilt Pinot Noir Old Guard
2013 The Hilt Pinot Noir Vanguard
2014 Donkey & Goat Helluva Pinot Noir
2014 Hahn Pinot Noir SLH
2014 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Sonoma Coast
2013 Goldeneye Pinot Noir Ten Degrees
2011 Goldeneye Pinot Noir Confluence Vineyard
2012 & 2013 El Rey Pinot Noir
2012 Sojourn Pinot Noir Gap's Crown Vineyard
2010 Sojourn Pinot Noir Sangiacomo Vineyard
2014 Ancillary Cellars Pinot Noir Sun Chase Vineyard
 
This will add to the handful of Pinot's I already have in my cellar. I do have a couple 2013 Sea Smokes - though I have never tried it. Most of the other Pinot's I have came through club memberships and they tend to not be my favorites as I didn't select them based on my style preference.
 
Thanks again,
Eric

 

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Reply by JonDerry, Aug 11, 2016.

Happy exploring Eric, nice set there to see what appeals to you. If you like the Rivers Marie and/or Donkey & Goat you might consider selling the Sea Smoke.

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Reply by dmcker, Aug 11, 2016.

Was going to ask your impressions of the Sea Smoke when you drank one of them. As JD points out, good resale value, but opinions differ greatly about the wine itself.

Would be good to hear what you think of any (and all) of your purchases. Once I can get a read, will be able to make some reccos. Not really a fan of scatter shot recommendations of any and everything, but prefer to know where your palate and interests are at this point in time. Good to see that you already got back with your purchase report!

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Reply by GregT, Aug 12, 2016.

In each case, these were made New World style with very concentrated extraction resulting in a fruity palette and dense mouth feel. But I don't recall what wines/vintages were like this.

Such a pretty picture a fruity palette will paint. I say go for the biggest, fruitiest Pinot Noir you can find. Something that is the true expression of the grape! No use spending time with thin, tasteless wines.

And welcome to the forum.

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Reply by rckr1951, Aug 12, 2016.

Well put Greg. Exactly what I like in wines in general. Thin, thready pinot doesn't really sit well with me.

ESOL - Good list to start with - have fun and pair with the right food.

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Reply by dmcker, Aug 12, 2016.

Well, CA pinot noir grown in the wrong place, trying to behave like a hot, fruit-forward Napa cab, doesn't sit well with me, either. Maybe you didn't notice Greg's tongue in cheek, RCKR.  ;-)

ESOL, what PN from Burgundy have you tried? And from OR?

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Reply by GregT, Aug 12, 2016.

Be nice D! I just got word from an old friend who just moved out to SD. Long time in the wine business, loves Burgundy and knows it well. I have to find something worthy to share with him.

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Reply by dmcker, Aug 12, 2016.

Sourcing locally, or from your NYC cellar? You could always raid JD's. Or are you talking Sonoma/Willamette? Oh dear, having to trample your well known aversion for mere friendship...  ;-)

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Reply by rckr1951, Aug 12, 2016.

Dmcker - I like fuller pinots with more fruit, not that thready, soft, pinot. More dark cherry than softer raspberry, red cherry.  That's my palate not that it matters. They certainly DON'T act like a hot Cali cabs.

I don't know you guys well enough to know your tongue in cheek from other statements, so no I didn't catch it...and why should I care?

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Reply by JonDerry, Aug 13, 2016.

Greg, I should just send over a bottle. When are you getting together with your friend?

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Reply by GregT, Aug 13, 2016.

Don't know but you will like him. He's a good guy although his taste is distinctly French. I ran into him in France one time, completely unexpectedly. GdP also knows him well.

I'll set something up to introduce you in the next month or so. Had no idea he'd moved out west. But I think the last few times I've seen him we've had Bordeaux.

 

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Reply by JonDerry, Aug 13, 2016.

Either way, sounds good. Burgundy v. Bordeaux is always fun.

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