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Snooth User: ApelsecS

Mr. President's choice :)

Posted by ApelsecS, May 25, 2018.

Hi everyone,

So let's post here some wine that presidents drink all over the world. Please leave links to original sources and your notes if you tasted em. Yeh, who cares... but isn't it fun to track such things in one place? We could build a list later...

 

I'll begin with Putin and Macron's lunch on May 24 2018 in Saint Petersburg at Konstantin Palace:

So, according to this photo of menu by RiaNews they had 2014 Merlot and Chardonnay "Usadba Divnomorskoe". It's about 35-40$. Haven't tasted yet.

...I wonder why it's written in Russian, how Macron would read it?))

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Reply by duncan 906, May 25, 2018.

As Putin was the host in his own country he would obviously promote/showcase wines from his own country. I am sure that if you got invited to an official dinner at the White House you would be served American wines. However the third President,Thomas Jefferson had a penchant for Chateau Haut-Brion and President Nixon was always served Chateau Margaux at such functions although his guests were not. The waiter had instructions to cover the label with a napkin as he poured it into the president's glass.Personally,I reckon that the best place to get invited for dinner would be Buckingham Palace as Her Majesty has one of the world's best wine cellars. When Barak Obama came she served Domaine Romanee Conti amoung other fine wines to her 200 guests

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Reply by GregT, May 25, 2018.

Trump just served Macron the Domaine Serene Evenstad Reserve. Someone thought it would be nice to have Dijon clones growing in Oregon soil as a symbol of cooperation.

 

 

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Reply by ApelsecS, May 26, 2018.

Duncan, Greg, thanks - these are very interesting details! If you guys have some more specific information on year and links (on snooth?) that would be nice to have for the record.

Regarding Putin's wine above - I found interesting detail that he selected year 2014 because it was the year of first sanctions against Russia in modern history.

Does anyone have info on African leaders?

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Reply by rckr1951, May 28, 2018.

bump

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Reply by duncan 906, Jun 4.

This week London has the dubious delight of hosting the US president Donald Trump. Last night he was the guest of Honour at a State dinner at Buckingham Palace.This morning's Times newspaper included a report on this event giving details of the Ladiies' dresses and jewelery as well as the menu and wine list.. There was a course of halibut and asparagus followed by a main course of lamb from the Windsor estate Two English sparkling wines .Windsor Great Park and Hambledon Classic Cuvee Rose NV were served along with a Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot Domaine Duc de Margenta Louis Jadot and a Chateau Lafite Rothschild. The only one I have personally had [and reviewed for Snooth] is the Chassange-Montrachet I thought it OK but not outstanding and gave it only three and a half snooth glasses

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Reply by dvogler, Jun 4.

Trump would say, "My wine is far better than any of these.  It's the best wine, highest ratings ever."

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 4.

Did it say what the vintages were, Duncan?

Am surprised Trump didn't ask for a well-done steak and a baked potato. Do I remember correctly reading somewhere that he doesn't drink alcohol? So how would he know if his eponymous wine was any good? Oh, I guess he just somehow knows 'it's great'. Like he claims to know all sorts of things with no basis in fact....

 

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Reply by duncan 906, Jun 5.

I must apologise for having not noted the vintages and I do not have a copy of yesterday's Times newspaper Trump is indeed teetotal. This is because his late brother was an alcoholic. What might piss him off is the fact that Barak Obama got better wines served for his State visit. Mr Obama got champagne,a grand cru chablis and Domaine Romanee Conti amoung other wines. We all know how he hates being compared with his predecessor

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 5.

Obama was very much a foody, and into his wines as well. He made it a point to visit all the restaurants and drink all the wines that he thought were doing interesting work at whatever city he visited in the States, from NYC to San Francisco (and north to Napa). I think after a little experience we all serve wines as hosts based on our understanding of our guests' knowledge and perceptions. When I first started entertaining in my 20s I busted my behind trying to serve the best wines with the best foods, regardless of who I was entertaining. About the time I saw guests putting ice cubes into First Growths I decided to change that policy based on what I thought any guest could appreciate, rather than aim for some Platonic Ideal.

Obama understands and thirsts to learn. Trump knows jack all, which is all he'll apparently ever learn on his own. And since he doesn't listen to informed others, on his own is the only way he learns (though it will be good to see courts force him to learn about incarceration for his crimes in the future). Anyway, no sense wasting the good stuff of any sort on him.

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Reply by dvogler, Jun 6.

I know Obama had Longshadows  "Chester Kidder" and "The Feather" in the White House cellar.

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Reply by GregT, Jun 6.

Funny. But if I were Trump, as the only world leader with his own winery (as far as I know), I'd have my wines served at the White House.

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 6.

What do you think he'd charge the government per bottle?  If he tweets it's as good as ___ (you fill in the blank--Screagle?), then can he charge the same price for his bottle?


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