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Snooth User: esol

Best Inky Wines?

Posted by esol, Nov 27, 2015.

HI everone. New to Snooth here, but would love some recommendations. Not so much on the varietals- but specific wines/vintages if you have any favorites to share.

I crave the darkest, inkiest wines that you can only drink with good friends (or alone haha) because your mouth turns purple. I tend to prefer dark fruits over red, full body, fruit forward/jammy wines that attack your palate. If it has a velvety or otherwise substantial mouth feel that pushes it over the top for me. I don't mind tannins, even sometimes preferring a gripping tannin (though I had a Sagrantino last night with very bitter tannins, that made it a little hard to drink).

Because of this, I tend to favor Petite Sirah, but often find good examples of this in Malbec, Syrah, Cab Sauv, Mourvedre and Nero D'Avola. I just had my first Tannat and Sagrantino, which were both good but as noted the bitter tannins in the Sagrantino were a distraction.

I appreciate the tips!


Reply by dmcker, Nov 27, 2015.

Black Cahors malbecs from France, then on to neighboring Tannat territory, could well work for you. Have you tried Amarone from the Veneto, in a different-but-possibly-workable (for you) style?

Reply by vin0vin0, Nov 27, 2015.

Welcome to Snooth Esol!  Have to agree that for big, tooth staining reds, petite sirah is also my go to wine. We used to be able to find a lot of big, jammy zins in the central coast region however, they seem to be making less of these and more Rhone style blends. Another option for big reds we've liked is Grenache based blends from Priorat, Spain. Happy hunting!

Reply by dvogler, Nov 27, 2015.

Welcome Esol,

You're in good company here Pal.  My wife's always ridiculing the state of my teeth and lips, but I have big shoulders.  I can take it.

For a cheap punch in the face, try Mollydooker "The Boxer" and Castilla Y Leon "Triton Tridente".

Reply by JonDerry, Nov 28, 2015.

The last wine I got this sensation in was a 2012 Quivet Cabernet Sauvignon Las Piedras. Now that's kind of expensive and tough to find.

Have you tried Barolo, or Langhe Nebbiolo? 2012 Sandrone Nebbiolo d'alba might be one to try if you like big tannins and complex fruit character.

Cheers, and welcome to the forum.

Reply by RandyFisher, Nov 28, 2015.

Esol, I'm going to make a bit of a leap here and recommend the wines of the Michael David Winery in Lodi. Their EarhQuake series sounds right up your alley. Their Sixth Sense Syrah is a winner also.

Reply by JonDerry, Nov 28, 2015.

Oh yeah, maybe Nebbiolo is too acidic

Paso Robles would be a good region for dark colored wines, ditto for Chateneuf du Pape in France.

Reply by outthere, Nov 28, 2015.

Bodegas El Nido Clio

Reply by outthere, Nov 28, 2015.

Yeah JD, that Las Piedras is a tooth stainer although all Mikes Cabs are made in that style.  He goes for as much color extraction as he can get in his Cabs. Difference is he keeps them balanced for what they are. They just require a few years to mellow out.

Reply by JonDerry, Nov 28, 2015.

Yeah OT, I like the Clio claim. $40ish too

Reply by esol, Nov 30, 2015.

Awesome tips, I'm ordering the Clio and a few others now. Thanks Randy I have had the EarthQuake wines and do recall liking them.

Reply by duncan 906, Nov 30, 2015.

If you want dark and inky try a Fronton from South-West France made  from the negrette grape.

Reply by GregT, Dec 2, 2015.

Randy is on the money. The whole line-up of wines from those folks. And Four Vines Zins if you like that style as well. A bit pricier, Turley Zins and Petite Sirah.

Lots of jammy juicy ones from Australia and Spain. The Clio was mentioned, and I guess the sibling El Nido would be one, but those wines are made by an Australian winemaker working in Spain. The grapes from south Spain lend themselves to that style, so look for more Monastrell and Carinena and Garnacha. In Australia, in addition to the Mollydooker, look for Henry's Drive (the winemaker used to make that before launching his own label), the wines of Chris Ringland (who makes the Clio) - his Three Rings is only around $15 US, and any number of other producers. Michael Twelvetree who makes Two Hands does a very nice job with really ripe fruit.

And in CA, there's a guy who is a big fan of the Clio and El Nido and he also makes a Monastrell. He's Brian Loring and his wines are of that type. Quite tasty actually.

And finally, you can find a lot of Pinot Noir all over Sonoma and farther south that is big, inky, sweet, and honestly kind of horrible but at least it's going to fit the category!

Reply by Richard Foxall, Jan 5, 2016.

ESOL, I've got some Clio I'm looking to drink soon.  You're not very far away if you have an interest.  It's regularly available at Wine Thieves in Lafayette, I recall.  I'd also look at the Mataro from 3Wines, Matt Cline's heritage vineyard brand.  Prices are good if you buy through WineAccess (and WineThieves, which carries many of his bottles). 

Just noticed DVogler's comment above.  Big thighs, sure.  Big shoulders?  On a cyclist?  Hard to believe.

Reply by esol, Jan 5, 2016.

Hi Richard,

I actually got a bottle, and already drank it. Its fantastic as everyone said. So of course, I'm up for drinking more! I just replied to your PM.



Reply by dvogler, Jan 5, 2016.

Haha Fox.  You're right.  I'm no linebacker.  But all 130lbs of me can take my wife's ridicule!  I've been buying Hendry in Victoria.  It's considerably more than the deal we got, (that's because of our Draconian liquor taxes),  but it's worth it once in a while.

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